Monday, April 25, 2005

Origin of Life - Macros and Micros - My theory

I have been thinking about this for sometime now. I think it is right time to put my idea to the world.

Have you ever wondered about the symmetries in nature?
Good Bad, Day Night, Light Dark, Heaven Hell, Life Death.

In my previous blog I also pointed the symmetries in the scale.

At the micro level we have atoms with the nucleus in the center and electrons revolving around the nucleus in orbit.
At the macro level we have solar systems with the sun in the center and planets revolving around the sun in orbit.


The priceless question: The Origin of Life

Where did all this begin?
Who are we? Where are we? Why are we here?

More and more scientists are starting to believe that life on Earth was seeded from space, billions of years ago. Article

Theory holds that Earth was harsh, dry and barren after its formation roughly 4.5 billion years ago. Comets may have brought water that filled the oceans. And in recent years, a growing number of scientists have warmed to an idea generated in the 1960s that comets and asteroids delivered other ingredients needed to jumpstart life. Catastrophic impacts could have supplied amino acids and other organic compounds used in biology.

Many of the necessary ingredients for life's recipe have been found to exist in comets and asteroids by studying them from afar. Harder evidence has come from space rocks that fell to Earth.

Of course the church disagrees as it comes as a direct contradiction to the teachings that God created life, including humans, on planet Earth. And man did not evolve from lower form of life.

Hindu scriptures do support modern theory of evolution. Scriptures say that we were born as insects and other lower form of species and by karma and reincarnation we evolve to a higher form of life and finally end as human beings.

But I haven’t read anywhere in the few Hindu scriptures that I have read where it is mentioned that life on earth was seeded by, just say, an asteroid, or comet or meteorite.

So is it possible? Could it have happened? What is the truth?

Could life have formed by an asteroid impact on earth? An asteroid carrying the potential to create life forms on earth.

Enough of macro.
Let’s move on to micro.

How is life formed?

We all know that life is formed when a sperm fertilizes an egg.
Among the millions of sperms only few hundred manage to reach the egg. Of the few hundred sperm which reach the egg, only one will successfully fertilize it. The fertilized egg then gives a new life. A Human being.

By now you must be knowing where Iam going!

Among the millions of sperms only few hundred manage to reach the egg.
Among the millions of asteroids, meteorites, comets only few hundred manage to reach the earth.

Of the few hundred sperm which reach the egg, only one will successfully fertilize it.
Of the few hundred asteroids, meteorites, comets which reach the earth, few may have successfully fertilized (seeded) the earth.

The fertilized egg then gives a new life. A Human being.
The seeded earth then gives a new species of life. Maybe a single celled organism, may be a fish, may be humans.

Do you see the parallel?

Hey what’s going on here :)

Were different asteroids, meteorites, comets responsible for different species and different races that we have on earth?

If life on Earth was seeded from space billions of years ago, who seeded life on space?

A meteor, from space, impact on earth.

A sperm, from man, impact on egg.


At 2:37 PM , Blogger Sunil Sharma said...

I don’t think comets and asteroids created the life on earth, those are accidents and does not prove anything. Earth has unique composition of substances that created water and other chemical composition for Life. There are evidences that life is been found where water temperature is above boiling point. Some are near newly created volcanic sites. There may not be any comets and asteroids hit. I doubt that comets and asteroids bring water to earth. In my opinion earth over time became self sufficient to create life. As far as God is concern, has anyone seen him?

At 8:36 AM , Blogger vimal said...

One of my friend asked "Why nothing is happening in our life time. No big asteroids, or meteorites".

I pointed her to Cosmic Calendar

The big asteroid which is believed to have wiped out dinosaurs happened only 2 days ago, in cosmic calendar.

See when humans were formed. We are so insignificant in the cosmic calendar. We just have lived few micro seconds. And we certainly can't expect asteroids and metoerites in such a short period of time.

We don't even know clearly what happened on Dec 31 early hours.

All that we can do now is come up with theories and try to find facts which support those theories.

Now, coming to the question of God.

"Kandavar vindilar; Vindavar kandilar". -Ramana Maharishi

It means that, one who has realized [God], never talks about it and one who proclaims never realized [God].

Ask a man, if he loves his wife.
When he says 'Yes' , ask him if he has seen Love.
He would probably say 'I haven't seen Love, but I have realized it. I have experienced it.'

What can you see?
Whatever your eye sees.
What can the eye see?
Materialistic things.

God is not materialistic.
God is spiritual.
God has to be realized. God has to be experienced.

At 9:26 AM , Blogger Sunil Sharma said...

God has to be realized? Like persons realizes love? Now what path one should take for realization? Faith and belief has nothing to do with facts. There are scientific evidences of Love that can be seen by hormonal increase and brain activity. I never came across any such evidences about God. Even if I assume God has to be realized, then which path should I take for realization? Christianity says it’s the only path to reach to god, and same is claimed by Islam. See the ONLY word is important here. Now, both can’t be true. It’s just faith and belief and nothing to do with science, which is based on evidences and facts.

Many theory supports wiping out of dinosaurs is because of huge volcanic eruption, and there after sudden temperature change. Nature has its own mean to create and destroy life. And nobody controls it. It’s an ever going process and will keep happening.

It’s a mistake to combining faith and facts. I respect all the faith and beliefs, what ever they are, but combining or correlating them with facts is dangerous.

Dinosaurs were present in all parts of world. Because of huge volcanic eruption, sulphur covered the earths atmosphere and ice age started. There were not enough vegetation to support herbivores, food chain link was broken and almost all the dinosaurs and many more creatures were wiped out. Now what trigged this huge volcano to erupt, that may be because of it’s natural time or may be because of an asteroid. Now if someone says God send asteroid or did some tickling to volcano to erupt, It does not make sense to me.

At 10:48 AM , Blogger kvman said...

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At 10:48 AM , Blogger kvman said...

I totally agree with Sunil. Its not right to mix faith, belief and real facts. Science is making progress and ultimately man will find the answer to life universe and everything. However, something thats not satisfying about this statement is that Man has still not found any convincing answers. We can only "believe" and have "faith" that ultimately things will be answered. This belief and faith is not fundamentally different from belief and faith in God. Just for the records, I have the former belief and faith and not the latter. At least the belief in science is not telling me conflicting paths to realization. It has not caused Crusades or Jihad.

At 10:49 AM , Blogger vimal said...

OK. Since you don't believe in God, I assume you don't go to temple or don't pray to God. Because it doesn't make any sense at all to do something sincerely when you don't believe in it.

You have said that "There are scientific evidences of Love that can be seen by hormonal increase and brain activity. I never came across any such evidences about God."

Let me enlighten you on this.

Scientists recently have done several experiments on Buddhist monks and Saints in deep meditation and came up with a lot of interesting observations.

For instance, the part of the brain that helps us orient ourselves and create a sense of self show less activity, less red. The brain quiets down.

This is just one example.
There have been several such studies recently confirming similar things.

All this has happened only during the last decade. We never knew all these stuff so many centuries. So it all takes time. Remember, our life time is only fraction of seconds in cosmic calendar. Nature takes its own time :)

Now to your question of what path to take to reach God.
I believe in the teaching 'Truth is One, Paths are Many'.

It doesn't matter which path you choose. As long as you are righteous, you will reach God.

You said that Christianity said that it's the only path to reach God. I would like to bring it to your attention that there are several versions of Bible and none of them are alike. They all are different. Even the teaching of Quran has been mis-interpreted with deliberation. According to the true Islam, women have equal rights as men, and people elect their leaders. What you see in Islamic countries these days is exactly the opposite. DO NOT give in to these impostors. The powerful, Kings, during the medieval period wanted to have a good hold on the people. The only way to accomplish their wish was the church. People were afraid of church. So they modified the Bible to suit their agenda. What we see today, is not the actual teachings of Jesus. So what are the actual teachings of Jesus? Honestly I don’t know, yet. I believe Hindu scriptures did not suffer this fate and are as much original. May be few interpretations may differ.

Your theory for the extinction of dinosaur, I agree, you believe a theory which few scientists have floated. Few other scientists have disagreed and have their own theories. Like I said earlier, these are just theories. Unless we find facts to support these theories, all theories are weighted alike.

Many people have the wrong perception that Science is against religion and God.
But the truth is, Science is not against religion or God. Science just tries to establish facts and rationale the faiths and beliefs related to religion and God.

At 11:15 AM , Blogger Sunil Sharma said...

experiments on Buddhist monks!!! Well, Buddhism just doesn’t deal with God.

At 11:15 AM , Blogger vimal said...


God is not responsible for such Crusades and Jihad that we know of. Few individuals who had an agenda of their own started this.

At 11:18 AM , Blogger vimal said...

Sunil I agree that Buddhism just doesn't deal with God. What I gave was an example. Hope you read those lines :)

I also said Saints.

What I gave was one example. Since you started this , I would like to add one more. Heard of 'Transcendental Meditation'?Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
Thats one more.

Heard of 'Sudarshan Kriya'? Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.
Thats one more.

There are several others :)

At 12:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting analogy

Also, the impacts of the various meteorites on the earth would have pushed earth into it's present orbit, as well as creating the mass critical to the development of life on earth. Our gravitational force, temperature, weather patterns, etc are dependant on other planetary factors, and are also dependant on the sun. For example, wave action is dependant on the moon!

Throw this into the equation ....

'May you always live in interesting times' - ancient Chinese curse, to which I say 'Bring it on'!

-Pat Pather

At 1:13 PM , Blogger kvman said...

"God is not responsible for such Crusades and Jihad".
Oh really? What is God responsible for, then?

At 1:31 PM , Blogger vimal said...

God created this materialistic world and defined set of rules or laws. Everyone in this system (materialistic world) have to obey the system's laws. Even God. Of course God can change(hack) them, but he usually does not interfere with the functioning of the system he created. Events do not happen in random. There is nothing called coincidence. Everything happens for a reason.

I would like to tell you a small story.
During Mahabharata period, Lord Krishna was killed by a hunter. The hunter mistook Lord Krishna's toe, behind a bush, for a Deer's eye and shot an arrow. After he heard a human voice, he ran and saw Lord Krishna. He cried 'What did I do? I will never be able to get rid of this sin.'

Lord Krishna said to him 'Worry not. In our previous life, I was Sri Rama and you were Vaali, and I shot you from behind and killed you. And now because of my Karma, you did the same thing to me and now we are even.'

At 4:15 PM , Blogger Arun said...

If you take the Einstein theory of Big bang or other theories, they all agree that the mass of this universe is constant. What that means is that the size and energy of this universe is constant. If we take that theory as a basis, we are just objects that are made up of flesh and bones which are made up of cells and they are made up of molecules. We all know molecules are made up of atoms. Every objects for example stone, water and human has different characteristics. For example, hydrogen exists in human body as well as in a stone. Just because we have hydrogen atoms does not make us a stone.

I believe this universe has defined properties. These properties make two particles attract (example hydrogen and oxygen). Similarly molecules have defined properties and cells have defined properties.

Life is an object with a property called life. An object has a property called life if it can consume and store energy and will disintegrate if it cannot get that energy.

We all keep thinking that we are not from this place. I think that the property of life is a property of this universe and will come into existence given the current environment.

You fist have to understand what is energy and everything will fall apart before your eyes.

Everything in this world can be explained. Only thing is that you should be able to understand. Just because you don’t understand does not mean that it is not true.

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At 10:49 PM , Anonymous Manigandan K said...

Wonderful macro and micro comparison keep it up !...
know what your friends would have told
(GIT)... am I right?

At 7:03 AM , Blogger vimal said...

yes mani, you are right :)

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